Massimo Moratti Tries to Make the Derby d’Italia Even More Intense
By: Martha | November 2nd, 2007
Chatting with the media ahead of Inter’s massive showdown with Juventus this Sunday, Massimo Moratti said the following: “We don’t have to fear anyone. Our main rivals are Roma and Milan, but Fiorentina and Juventus deserve respect.” What?! Dude. Could you just shut the hell up already?
Not only did Moratti give Juve some bulletin board material by portraying them as less of a threat than the gang from across town who can’t shoot straight, but he also fed the papers a sob story about Inter suffering over the past few years, dismissing Juve’s claims of victimization by the Calciopoli scandal. Apparently Inter were actually very kind to Juve during the dark times, buying both The Great Zlatan and Patrick Vieira (you can’t see me, but I’m rolling my eyes at the mere mention of the broken Frenchman’s name) for prices that reflected their “market value,” rather than willfully taking advantage of Juve’s desperation to reduce their wages when they went down to Serie B, and refusing to pay more than €1500 for the pair of them. So, really, Juve ought to be laying out the red carpet for Inter this weekend, showering them with gratitude rather than trying to crush them under their collective heel. Sigh. Yeah, it’s going to be an angry night in Turin.
Also, because Big Games have to be discussed in outrageous detail, La Gazzetta asked a bunch of big names once connected with Juve and Inter how they think the match will turn out and, in case you were wondering, there were two votes for an Inter win, one for a Juve victory, three for a draw, and two for “partita da tripla,” which I cannot sort out for the life of me. (It must be an idiom that means they won’t make a prediction. Maybe? Because Marcello Lippi wouldn’t give an opinion, and he’s one of the “partita da tripla” crew.)
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Partita da Triplo means A Threefold Game. They were probably implying that two folds would be the teams, and the 3rd fold would be the referee. Whether it was meant to be humorous or not who knows.
I have been waiting for this game for a long, long time. I truly hope Inter crushes Juve. Not because Juve cheated or becasue they are bitching this season about officiating and being victimized etc… just becasue I truly HATE them and I truly love Inter. It has always been that way and it will always be that way.
As for Moratti’s comments, good for him. Inter does not have to fear anyone and they shouldn’t have to act like they do. Juventus’ wounds, according to them and their fans, are still open and he is just pouring some salt into them. 2:30pm(est)Sunday cannot come soon enough! FORZA INTER!
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“the paper champions are coming to town!”. everyone that is against inter preaches this. i really hope that y internazionale blows everyone in the world out of the water this year just to prove that we are the superior team.
prediction - inter 3 - 1 juventus
as for moratti, he just loves to poke fun at juventus. you gotta love the guy, he’s really consistant with his comments to the media.
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looks like mr. moratti has learned a thing or two from another rat like man mr. R. domenech:D they would make great friends:D why doesnt he just shut up and focus on the match instead of talking shite
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Well, two teams I hate. All I can hope for is a draw, so neither side can sneak off with any real points. There is no lesser of two evils for me in this one. Although it would be funny for the Serie B side to defeat the ‘Paper Champions’ All in all though i think this will be a great match for both sides, and I really can’t see a clear cut winner.
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Paper Champions do not earn 97 points, set a league record for wins or a European Big 5 record for longest winning streak (17 games). Paper Champions do not come back the very next season and pick up right where they left off! Inter is anything but paper. I hope they continue their domination!
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Thanks for the translation, Paolo, and thanks to you and Kirby for the Inter love — it’s hard to come by around here, as you know. (And I’ll be chewing my nails to the bone all day Sunday. I’m terrified.)
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Sofia, don’t even mention RayRay and Moratti in the sentence — next you’ll have him hiring the French madman to replace Mancio, or something. *shudder*
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No Problem Martha!! And Ya Sofia, likening Moratti to Domenech… not cool. Massimo is telling it like it is while Ray lives in La La Land and makes crap up! Don’t be the pot calling the kettle black, or grey, or blue or whatever… Gigli has not been a saint to this point and he started long before Moratti did ;) Can’t wait for this match!!
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With all due respect to Paolo, a “Partita da Triplo” in this case means that all three results are possible: Win, Lose or tie for either team. If one were betting on the games, then the better would put money on one team to have all three outcomes. In other words, all (in this case three) outcomes are possible. Unlike for example, Inter-Genoa in which if one were betting one would put money on Inter to win only.
Having said that, I find the Juventus athletic supporters (and yes, I wrote that exactly as I meant it) rolling on the floor funny whenever they describe their fall into Serie B as unjustified, as though people were just picking on them and only them without reason.
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well i wont comment on the ‘paper champions’ thing… you may not have been paper champions last year but you were for the two years before that…
what annoys me more is the “honest scudetto” HAH please honest my ass… there isnt a honest bone in massimo moratti’s body… he is the most corrupt person in italy… with berlusconi and moggi coming in second… but moratti is undoubtedly the worst of the bunch…
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oh and last year… yeah win a scudetto with no juve and milan fiorentina lazio are all handicapped… bravo… harp on about the 97 points then eh? i know milan’s form is woeful and im not denying that… but i would hope that inter fans would not deny the fact that serie a last year was hardly the most competitive league… it was definitely a handicapped league last year…
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I love it. You make fun of us as “Paper Champions” because it was ALL OUR FAULT that Juve, Milan, Fiorentina, etc., WERE ILLEGALLY FIXING GAMES! Here’s an idea, if you want to keep your Scudetto, if you are really upset that you think that Inter was “handed” something… then STOP CHEATING! Win you’re Scudetto honestly, if you can. Easy, right? Right!?
By the way k, it sounds like you need your ass fixed… Even though it seems like you’re a Juve athetic supporter and honesty isn’t exactly a Juve trait (proven in a court of law), it still shouldn’t hurt your ass that badly…
P.S. I would love to see how long it takes for Juve to make 97 points in Serie A anytime, anywhere, anyhow… well maybe not ANYHOW…
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okay, mad, first i would really like to know what was it that made me sound like a juve supporter… i am a milan fan and of all the crap you said that is the only thing that came close to offending me… but then i realized that you are an obviously delusional inter fan(dont take this the wrong way, when it comes to milan, i am hardly level-headed)… especially if you believe that inter had nothing to do with the whole “fixing the game thing.” so moratti was completely unaware of any of this shit?! somehow reggina got in the action but moratti had no idea?! thats a ridiculous joke… the reason i said moratti was the most corrupt of them all was because he was the only one who managed to get away with it… because if anyone really thinks that moratti is an honest and fair business person, they are wrapping themselves in a conundrum(honesty and fairness arent exactly the traits of most successful business people..).. call me a cynic, but there is no way moratti did not know… and if you agree with that, the next question is that if he did why did he not come forward earlier? and if he did know, did he not make any effort to get into the action as well?!
i did not say that you were paper champions because its your fault we “cheated”… you are paper champions because you did not win that scudetto on the field.. you got it on a fax machine…
last years scudetto was won on the field and the only thing i can take away from that the league was handicapped… that last part is probably not something you will agree with(because it is your first real scudetto in a long time) and ill be happy to agree to disagree…
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K, I’m not an Inter supporter, but still I don’t get how anyone can complain about Inter’s scudetto last season. You can gripe ’til the cows come home about the league being handicapped, but the fact remains that Inter only lost one game the entire season. Forget about the points handicaps, it didn’t matter-Inter blew everyone out of the water, end of story.
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You speak like Milan never had any advantages.
While Galliani was on top of FIGC, they appealed to disciplinary commision to ban 3 matches for Adriano and increase Ibra’s (in Juve days) ban from 2 to 3 so they both would miss vs Milan, when even video evidence proved nothing and other team was willing to testify against the ban. When do you ever see FIGC appealing against Milan? If they ever did, they would have banned Gilardino for life for diving. Oh yeah, and Zampa gets punished for complaining against ref, but Milan don’t when they even put bunch of lists up on official website. How many advantages did Milan get from Uncle Fester, and what makes you say some scudetto are more honest than others when I see 3 drug related problems from one club in the past 2 years all gets ‘put into silence’. (Gattuso, Boriello, Ronaldo). So what should I name your scudetto, drugged scudetto? or Galliani-detto? and how should I name your champs when I AGAIN see FIGC asking UEFA to let milan run on the champs. Should I call it a begged-ear, or another-FIGC-power-ear?I really love this site, and try to respect every member of the forum(even on the derby days), but if you want to start a bashing war, I got a bunch of things ready to fuel up.
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i love how everyone this site is so opinionated. it really makes for good reading!
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k, I don’t see how anything I said about Juve couldn’t also be said about Milan…
Again with the “Paper Champions”? You really want to get into it? Okay, fine by me.
Two seasons ago, if you can remember that far back, I know it’s hard for some, the five teams atop the Serie A table were: Juventus, Milan, Inter, Fiorentina and Roma. Juventus, Milan and Fiorentina were found guilty of CHEATING.
Inter and Roma was found innocent of any charges and after deductions and relegations were numbered 1 and 2 in the table. The alternatives were to uphold the Scudetto for a year or to make those with the next highest points and innocent of all wrong-doing (in this case) champions. You or I may not agree with the decision, but we didn’t make it.
The funny part is that you (and your ilk) are mocking us for being (in this case) a team free from fixing matches, while somehow, a team that is guilty of cheating (Juventus, Milan, Fiorentina…) is somehow more deserving? How much denial does any one person need?
How much self-esteem do you need to leetch off of a sports team see that a cheating team is preferable as champions than a clean one?More than I thought apparently…
By the way if you have any SUBSTANTIAL evidence other than, “You can’t tell me…” about Inter’s supposed wrong-doing, you would be in Italy picking out a new suit for your multimillion dollar trial, not shouting into the lonliness here on the “internets” so forgive me if I just chuckle at your “accusations”.
k, I also don’t recall (nor do I recall anyone in this forum) proclaiming any angels here. I think we are all aware of the realities of professional sports. It’s just that in this case your team lost and lost BIG. You can be grumpy about it if you want to be, but be prepared for people to call on you on your “imagination”.
P.S. If you feel the league was handicapped last year, then one way that Milan could have proved that they were REALLY, REALLY innocent was to win a few games here and there, like, say, against INTER!?!?!?
P.P.S. If you’re so upset about so-called “undeserving teams winning Championships”, then I should be hearing you shout from the Mountain Tops that Milan shouldn’t have even been in Champions League last year…YEAH!
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damn… apparently i really know how to rile up the audience… it seems that i anger you so much with one sentence… aka the handicapped league part… that you forget the next one… aka im very happy to agree to disagree…
and no i dont have any substantial evidence against inter, and yes if i did i would probably be buying a ferragamo suit from my signing bonus with an exceptionally douchie law firm… but i suppose i felt it was just an obvious deduction to make with moratti’s “non-involvement” in a matter even reggina is gettin into… and about roma, i am pretty sure there was a whole deal with sensi handing out gifts to refs and such… feel free to chuckle at my accusations, i dont mind… i am a consipiracy theorist at heart and i also dont believe that armstrong landed on the moon and i definately dont think there are any wmds in iraq… i guess it offends you i dont believe everything i hear on the news… but i have got to say your underhanded insults on my intelligence, memory and mental stability really crack me up…
“then one way that Milan could have proved that they were REALLY, REALLY innocent was to win a few games here and there, like, say, against INTER!?!?!?”– exactly how does winning prove innocence?! i guess that was probably your way of issuing your derby bragging rights… id just like to say 6-0…
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zabel, i wont say gila doesnt dive… but it sure does seem that you are saying adriano doesnt…
i am trying to respect your opinion here so once again for the third time i say… i am happy to agree to disagree… and i guess what i said can be summed up by this statement- inter’s last year’s scudetto is worth more than the one they took away from juve and gave to them… and should they win this year(please god, no) this one would be worth more than the one last year… IMO… htatd (thats happy to agree to disagree
but ronaldo never took that treatment… boriello is an entirely different story(and if he is to be believed, its hardly milans fault he has a infected girlfriend)… and about gattuso i have no idea what you are talkin about… maybe i just never heard about it…
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“it seems that i anger you so much with one sentence”
If this is directed to me, allow me to refresh your memory: “I love it.” “I find… rolling on the floor funny” “I would love to see how…” “The funny part is that you…” “so forgive me if I just chuckle” - I am laughing at all of this and you. I love this stuff. I heard it before (from much more credible sources then you) and I still can’t find anyone to give me a good arguement back. Almost as if there isn’t one…
“i guess it offends you i dont believe everything i hear on the news…”
You would guess wrong. I could care less about your reaction to “the news”. I just acted (rightly) suspicious of your accusations that you pulled out of thin air. Especially with the literal mountian of court transcripts and news that DO NOT support one iota of the accusations that you flung around like it was the gospel truth.
“i guess that was probably your way of issuing your derby bragging rights… id just like to say 6-0″
Wrong again, it’s logic. If Inter were somehow undeserving of the Scudetto 2 years ago, or if it was somehow tainted, then that would mean that one of the teams above them were clean. There were only two teams above them: Milan and Juve. Since you already stated that it’s not Juve that you are somehow defending with the comment “paper champions” then it must be Milan. If Milan was more deserving of the Scudetto of 2005 as you imply, then they could have proved it to the world by winning more games, especially against Inter and showing that they would have no need to cheat. By finishing where they did in the table and how they finished, it is at least one element of proof to me that they must have had help the year before finishing second.
I have no idea to what you are refering to with “6-0″. I am sure whatever it is, you are gleaning much self esteem from your cheating team for doing it.
“but i have got to say your underhanded insults on my intelligence, memory and mental stability really crack me up”
re-reading my posts… annnnnnnnnd, yep, no insults found. If your ass really does hurt when someone is honest, then please, for your sake get it fixed. I really mean that for your own good. However, if my nonexistant insults make you laugh, then we are both laughing, which is good for me, anyway.
I notice that you haven’t yet, for all your self righteous talk of “paper champions” and “undeserved this or that”, you haven’t yet responded to this little tidbit:
“P.P.S. If you’re so upset about so-called “undeserving teams winning Championships”, then I should be hearing you shout from the Mountain Tops that Milan shouldn’t have even been in Champions League last year…YEAH!”… I mean I am sure there wasn’t anything UNDERHANDED in how that got REINSTATED into the CL, right? RIGHT?!?!
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K, I still see no reason why Inter’s scudetto last season should be worth less than this season’s scudetto will be should they win it. Again, one loss all season. I don’t buy that the absence of Juve made THAT big a difference, or that the points handicaps somehow demoralized Fiorentina, Milan, and Lazio so much that they performed worse than they would have otherwise. Your position just sounds like sour grapes from a neutral perspective.
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mad, you will never hear me shot that out from mountain tops… it could be because i think the whole thing was a farce, but gun to my head, it would be because i love milan and i couldnt care less what happened, i just want to see them win… i presume you feel the same way about inter so whether i gave you a good argument back or not, you would simply just completely ignore it and say something like im rolling on the floor laughing at that… besides, legally speaking, uefa has no jurisdiction in the league, so they cant do anything, if you want to “blame” anyone for letting milan in, blame the people who handed down the rulings, and the people who reduced our point deduction in 2005-06 season to make us fourth… and you for all your “you dont have any proof” talk, i ask the following question, do you have any proof that “underhanded” methods were used to get us back in?? i presume not, but you seem to preaching that it is a very serious possibility that it did, and i would not disagree, i mean moratti may be the worst but berlusconi is a close second and he could definately make that happen… but the main point here is that, you dont mind, in your words, making the “accusations” from “thin air” when it is against milan but if make one against inter, then i am “imagining” it eh?
shockingly, the transcripts of the phone calls came from a company moratti is on the board of directors of… thats like sayin that cheney has no personal influence in all the oil companies that are gettin rich of the war and that, that had nothin to do with the war on iraq… (sorry for that political analogy, i couldnt think of anything else)
if you have no idea what 6-0 i am talkin about, you have not been an inter fan for long enough…
im sorry MAD, but askin me to “get my ass fixed” sounds like a juvenile underhanded insult to me… i really dont get what that is supposed to mean, and i would rather not dig out the quotes, so re-read and find it yourself… whether you can or cannot, is quite frankly irrelevant to me..
lisa… fair enough… ill be the first to say that i am ridiculously baised and i try to rationalize milan’s loss 10 out of 10 times… but i truly believe that this year’s serie a, whoever wins it, even if it is inter who wins it (please god, no) is worth more than last years… it is far more competitive, as is already evidenced in the league and milan arent even competing yet… but yeah, they could easily be sour grapes…
on a final note, MAD, championships are won against the little teams, not the big ones… the results of the derby rarely have a large effect on where the trophy goes.. so no, that still does not make much sense to me
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k,
“i presume you feel the same way about inter so whether i gave you a good argument back or not”
You would presume wrongly. I care whether Inter behave honorably or not. I criticize them when I feel they have made a mistake.
“you for all your “you dont have any proof” talk, i ask the following question, do you have any proof that “underhanded” methods were used to get us back in?”
Here’s what I said, “I mean I am sure there wasn’t anything UNDERHANDED in how that got REINSTATED into the CL, right? RIGHT?!?!” It looks like I am saying that there wasn’t any underhanded stuff, to me. I just don’t think it was warrented. And I THINK (not an accusation) that there was a lot of lobbying going on, as it turned out there was. If you read news, which you said you don’t, but if you did you would have read several articles in the “Corriere” about it.
“if you have no idea what 6-0 i am talkin about, you have not been an inter fan for long enough…”
I have been an Inter supporter for thirty years. There are a LOT of “6-0’s”. Which one do you mean? Would you care to tell me exactly how/why I should be shameful for THIS on or would you would you just care to be patronizing again? Talk about childish…
“im sorry MAD, but askin me to “get my ass fixed” sounds like a juvenile underhanded insult to me…”
You brought your ass into this discussion. I just said I think that you should get it checked out if it’s bothering you. If you don’t want me to talk about it, why did you bring it up, Mr. Sensitive? Talk about childish and juvenile, sheesh.
“on a final note, MAD, championships are won against the little teams, not the big ones… the results of the derby rarely have a large effect on where the trophy goes.. so no, that still does not make much sense to me”
I SAID that Milan should have more GAMES last season if they would like people to not think that they need to cheat. I am not sure just how hard this concept is. When you win games… you win championships. This is sports… not rocket science. Inter, the team that you denigrate for… NOT CHEATING… is one of the teams that Milan has to play well against to win. They didn’t and they didn’t play well at homex2, right?
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