Comments on: Juve Fans Narc on Their Own; Are Celebrated Far and Wide http://italy.theoffside.com/serie-a/juve-fans-narc-on-their-own-are-celebrated-far-and-wide.html News from the Italian Serie A Thu, 26 Nov 2009 01:30:56 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Marco http://italy.theoffside.com/serie-a/juve-fans-narc-on-their-own-are-celebrated-far-and-wide.html#comment-20259 Marco Tue, 18 Sep 2007 23:35:40 +0000 http://italy.theoffside.com/serie-a/juve-fans-narc-on-their-own-are-celebrated-far-and-wide.html#comment-20259 Oh absolutely, I'm not condoning his actions. He did something stupid and deserves to be punished. It's just that it's unfortunate, that a guy who never goes to soccer stadiums suddenly decides to have a stupid idea, and will have to pay for it very severely. Will the stadiums really be a safer place without Nicola Ravasio? I don't think it'll make much difference. But like I said, he's serving as an example of 'swift justice' and people will (hopefully) now think 10 times before using an exploding flare in a stadium again. Oh absolutely, I’m not condoning his actions. He did something stupid and deserves to be punished.

It’s just that it’s unfortunate, that a guy who never goes to soccer stadiums suddenly decides to have a stupid idea, and will have to pay for it very severely. Will the stadiums really be a safer place without Nicola Ravasio? I don’t think it’ll make much difference. But like I said, he’s serving as an example of ’swift justice’ and people will (hopefully) now think 10 times before using an exploding flare in a stadium again.

]]> By: Martha http://italy.theoffside.com/serie-a/juve-fans-narc-on-their-own-are-celebrated-far-and-wide.html#comment-20248 Martha Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:30:48 +0000 http://italy.theoffside.com/serie-a/juve-fans-narc-on-their-own-are-celebrated-far-and-wide.html#comment-20248 Thanks, Marco -- the English-language sources I read referred to the sentence as "suspended," so I guess I fell for a lazy translation. It's unfortunate that he's paying (or not, mostly likely) a price for a single offense, but the fact that he doesn't go to many football match and doesn't usually set things on fire and throw them doesn't mean that he shouldn't be punished. (I realize that's not what you're saying.) I mean, he's not an Ultra, but he still did something illegal and would certainly seem to deserve punishment for it. Thanks, Marco — the English-language sources I read referred to the sentence as “suspended,” so I guess I fell for a lazy translation.

It’s unfortunate that he’s paying (or not, mostly likely) a price for a single offense, but the fact that he doesn’t go to many football match and doesn’t usually set things on fire and throw them doesn’t mean that he shouldn’t be punished. (I realize that’s not what you’re saying.) I mean, he’s not an Ultra, but he still did something illegal and would certainly seem to deserve punishment for it.

]]> By: Marco http://italy.theoffside.com/serie-a/juve-fans-narc-on-their-own-are-celebrated-far-and-wide.html#comment-20247 Marco Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:23:28 +0000 http://italy.theoffside.com/serie-a/juve-fans-narc-on-their-own-are-celebrated-far-and-wide.html#comment-20247 Martha, the sentence wasn't suspended. Ravasio received a 1-year jail sentence but he'll immediately be eligible for parole, meaning he'll be free but under surveillance. Unless that's what you mean by "suspended" (sorry, I'm not an expert of English legal jargon). Ravasio actually pleaded guilty to the charge, and on top of the 3-year stadium ban, will be forced to report to the nearest police station for every Juventus home & away game. In defence of Ravasio, <a href="http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Altro_Calcio/Primo_Piano/2007/09_Settembre/17/papatifoso.shtml" rel="nofollow">his father declared</a> "my son is not a hooligan, but he's paying the price for them". Not only that, but apparently (and that's been verified) Ravasio hasn't been to a single soccer game for over 2 years! He did something really stupid (especially in light of the stewards' hearing loss problems), but in my opinion the punishment doesn't match the crime in this case. Far worse is taking place in stadiums on a regular basis. The only positive thing is that it'll be a deterrent for anyone else to do this again, and it proved that the steward system was a welcome & efficient addition to the Italian league. Martha, the sentence wasn’t suspended. Ravasio received a 1-year jail sentence but he’ll immediately be eligible for parole, meaning he’ll be free but under surveillance. Unless that’s what you mean by “suspended” (sorry, I’m not an expert of English legal jargon). Ravasio actually pleaded guilty to the charge, and on top of the 3-year stadium ban, will be forced to report to the nearest police station for every Juventus home & away game.

In defence of Ravasio, his father declared “my son is not a hooligan, but he’s paying the price for them”. Not only that, but apparently (and that’s been verified) Ravasio hasn’t been to a single soccer game for over 2 years! He did something really stupid (especially in light of the stewards’ hearing loss problems), but in my opinion the punishment doesn’t match the crime in this case. Far worse is taking place in stadiums on a regular basis.

The only positive thing is that it’ll be a deterrent for anyone else to do this again, and it proved that the steward system was a welcome & efficient addition to the Italian league.

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