Comments on: Saying Goodbye

By: Arian

Arian — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:10:09 +0000

Now this is bull$hit! Roma fans are banned and Napoli ones are not…

By: Cerberus

Cerberus — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:35:19 +0000

I think that if the angle is right on the investigation then I think the policeman’s fate will have been more screwed by the way he and his fellow policemen lied about it afterwards.

If he had just admitted to the actual facts whatever they were he could have gotten a mitigated sentence. In this case, I’d expect most juries available will give him maximum sentence “as an example.”

Sad, yes. Possibly cruelly fatal and unfair, but definitely the result of trying to hide from that blame and giving the anti-police crowd a lot of ammunition.

I hope upon hope that this leads to the much needed reforms in the political system, police departments, and the ultras which will help to prevent the various massive problems which have allowed this to serve as such a boiling point. And I think it will have to occur in all of those groups to be meaningful.

By: Martha

Martha — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:59:11 +0000

I agree with you, Roberto — he’s in a bad, bad spot.

And thanks for the clarification, SP.

By: roberto

roberto — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:35:34 +0000

now let’s just say here that for one moment Luigi did not aim at Gabriele and it was an accident, given all the publicity (and expectably so), proponents and protagonists (clubs and tifosi)… will he get a fair trial? or will those screaming for his blood influence the proceedings? … tough call

By: SpanglyPrincess

SpanglyPrincess — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:45:14 +0000

The charge of omocidio volontario I think corresponds to 2nd or 3rd degree murder in the US system, though I am obviously not an expert on US law. In the UK it would just count as murder, we don’t have those distinctions.

By: mele419

mele419 — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:45:29 +0000

Here we go… Re-upped to another server:
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/9830/sandripn2.jpg

By: Martha

Martha — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:23:17 +0000

Thank you, Traian and DJL, I’m glad it’s been useful. (And DJL, you didn’t sound condescending at all.)

mele, the link’s not working — can you try again? (Is it this one?)

By: mele419

mele419 — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:17:37 +0000

Found this memorial mural to Gabriele… Its really good actually.

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20071114/capt.sge.urr75.141107184709.photo01.photo.default-512×331.jpg

By: Traian

Traian — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:25:50 +0000

Great coverage, Martha! Keep up the good work.

By: DJL

DJL — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:54:27 +0000

Martha,
I didn’t mean to come across as condescending, and I certainly understand why some would label the salute both fascist (the whole world) and purely Roman (Italian news). Not sure which group is being more naive, but at any rate, its one of those nuances of Italian culture that lies beneath the surface.

Thanks for your updates.