Why? FIGC Why?

By: Dylan | July 18th, 2011
   

The Italian FA have somehow confirmed that they can not strip Internazionale Milano of their 2006 Scudetto. Now maybe it’s because I’m looking at Italian football through my corruption-free tinted glasses, but I expected at least some action to me taken. The FIGC’s “executive committee” met in Rome today, and the decision was confirmed. Twenty-three members voted for the Scudetto to be kept, while only one (ONLY ONE?!) member voted for it to be revoked. My opinion on the statue of limitations in Italian law goes far beyond football.

As I spoke of in my last article, Juventus President Andrea Agnelli will appeal this decision. Though ultimately it will come to nothing.

This all leads back to the original Calciopoli trial, evidence must have been cherry-picked, and it only lasted about fifteen days. The evidence of former Inter President Giacinto Facchetti’s eighty or so phone calls to match officials must have been a figment of everyones’ imagination. If everything was fair, Inter would lose this Scudetto and would be relegated to Serie B. At the very least give the Scudetto to no one, like the 2005 one. This can not be allowed to carry on. The FIGC keep leaking phone-taps when it suits them and they are the most corrupt association of all.

Why? Money Speaks...

Why? Money Speaks...


The Inter evidence violated Article 6 (match-fixing), which Juventus never did. Juve violated Article 1 instead (attempted match-fixing), but they got send down. Why?

Just looking at the different clubs that were convicted of match-fixing via the phone-taps, Luciano Moggi had many more calls then anyone else and they were more incriminating. The sporting tribunal actually found Moggi guilty of unethical behaviour and attempted match fixing. It’s the scale of everyones’ involvement. Juve were rightly punished (perhaps harshly) but if that’s the precedent it should be followed, meaning Inter should have been relegated. The FIGC could have closed the door on this by revoking the Scudetto at the very least.

It looks as though every one’s guilty, but the saddest thing is this is now a stereotype of Italian football, you can’t win without cheating. If everyone is cheating then no one will be punished.


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  • Sevag

    The FIGC is tired from this shit. They just want to close the case and end it here. If those evidence were brought up 5 years ago, of course Inter were also going to get punished. 

  • Jose P

    stirring the pot Dylan....i like it. careful you don't feel the wrath of those rabid hounds that comprise the Inter Offside. MAD and Johonna are gonna be up in arms.
    Forza Juve!

  • Sampath

    keep stirring the pot i like it, i like it a lot

  • Arfaestnes

    If they can't revoke the 2006 scudetto because of the statute of limitations, how about the four that followed?  On the one hand they had an advantage thanks to the punishments for Juve and other convicted teams, and on the other hand they clearly kept right on cheating.

  • Pauri1s

    LADRI

  • Goldendark21

    and calcio fans must be understand in this many years who is guilty in reality-with goal in last minute,yellow/red card to opponent/penalty kick robbery- and we all know that shame club.new evidence phone calls??''dont joke around that because there is club who always fixed the match like mafia so honest club must suggest to get good referee

  • inter-cagliari ring any bells?

    Stay ignorant, illiterate and keep dreaming, ******.

  • ForzaPadova

    Do not compare Facchetti's phone calls to a match designator to Luciano Moggi who has paid refs, made players from other clubs play badly for cheaper fees, used mafia funds, mafia ties, involved in the biggest doping scandal in italian history and perhaps world football. Dont paint them with the same brush, your reaching. Juventus deserved to get relegated. full stop.

  • Tonyret2

    you are an absolute moron! the 2006 world cup final teams were half juventus players. The squad was brilliant and needed no help from anyone.  You make some very outlandish statements like mafia, paid ref's etc, just be careful what you say as you look like a fool!

  • 27/44

    27 of the 44 starters in Italy's 4 WC-final-winning players were Juventus players.

  • That's what it comes down to right there.

  • ^^^This is what Gazzetta dello Sport readers actually believe.^^^

    paid refs

    Proof? This is not what Juventus was accused and/or relegated for.

    made players from other clubs play badly for cheaper fees

    Proof? This is not what Juventus was accused and/or relegated for.

    used mafia funds

    Proof? This is not what Juventus was accused and/or relegated for. You sure you aren't mixing up the accusations against Moggi when he was at Napoli?

    mafia ties

    Proof? This is not what Juventus was accused and/or relegated for. You sure you aren't mixing up the accusations against Moggi when he was at Napoli?

    involved in the biggest doping scandal in italian history and perhaps world football

    You think PCr and methyl converters are PED's?

    Even a barely 20 year old, first year pharmacy/sports medicine student will laugh at your fucking face if you mention that shit. Don't talk about what you have 0 knowledge of.

    Read

    Accusa: Con la chiusura della fase istruttoria (29 maggio 2000) la Juventus, nelle persone del medico sociale Riccardo Agricola, e dell'Amministratore Delegato Antonio Giraudo, venne accusata accusata di somministrazione di doping ed abuso di farmaci tra il 1994 ed il 1998.

    Processo di Primo Grado: Dopo quasi 3 anni di dibattimento il 26 novembre 2004 RiccardoAgricola viene condannato a un anno e dieci mesi di reclusione per somministrazione di Epo eabuso di farmaci (I farmaci considerati “dopanti” erano: Mepral iniettabile, Orudis iniettabile, Voltaren, Bentelan fiale, Depo-medrol fiale, Esafosfina, Neoton, Samyr, Tricortin 1000, Solu-medrol fiale, Flebocortid fiale, Flantadin compresse, Deflan compresse, Bentelan compresse, Lidocaina fiale, Xylocaina, Liposom forte. Tutti regolarmente dichiarati e presenti nelle “farmacie” delle squadre di serie A). Viene invece assolto per insufficienza di prove (così recita la sentenza) Giraudo e quindi la Juventus, in quanto all'oscuro delle pratiche del medico sociale.

    Processo di Appello: Nel dicembre 2005 la Corte di Appello di Torino assolve pienamente sia Agricola sia Giraudo (e quindi la Juve). Assolti per la somministrazione di epo (data per certa dal perito D'Onofrio nelle fasi finali del processo di primo grado) in quanto il fatto non sussiste. Assolti per frode sportiva ed abuso di farmaci in quanto il fatto non costituisce reato perchè, così si legge nella sentenza "la legge 401 del 1989 non può essere applicata in quanto non è dimostrata l'alterazione delle prestazioni con la somministrazione dei medicinali" facendo così venire meno tutto il castello accusatorio.

    Cassazione: 30 marzo 2007. Per quanto riguarda l’accusa di doping (legata alla presunta assunzione di epo) la Corte ha respinto il ricorso della Procura di Torino contro la sentenza emessa dalla Corte d’Appello nel Dicembre 2005 confermando l’assoluzione sia di Giraudo che di Agricola in quanto il fatto non sussiste.
    Per quanto invece riguarda la questione dell’abuso di farmaci la Corte di Cassazione ha ritenutoinamissibile la motivazione dell’assoluzione della Corte d’Appello, secondo la quale “l’abuso di farmaci non era punito dalla legge all’epoca dei fatti”.
    Secondo la Corte di Cassazione infatti: “chi somministra ai partecipanti alla competizione, sostanze atte ad alterarne le prestazioni, e che fraudolentemente mira a menomare o ad esaltare le capacità atletiche del giocatore, pone in essere una condotta che consiste in un espediente occulto per far risultare una prestazione diversa da quella reale, in un artifizio capace di alterare il genuino svolgimento della competizione, con palese violazione dei principi di lealtà e di correttezza: per l’effetto, gli atti posti in essere sono agevolmente riconducibili alla nozione di atti fraudolenti di cui alla normativa in esame” (legge sulla frode sportiva).

    La Corte ha quindi ritenuto che la somministrazione eccessiva di farmaci possa configurarsi come reato di frode sportiva e ha quindi annullato la sentenza di assoluzione della Corte d’Appello.

    Attenzione perchè questo è un passaggio fondamentale: la Cassazione non ha emesso una sentenza di condanna nè per Agricola nè per Giraudo ne questi, vista la mal parata, si sono rifugiati nella prescrizione (come invece in molti credono). La Cassazione ha semplicemente dichiarato inammissibili le motivazioni della sentenza di assoluzione (ma non espresso alcun giudizione in merito alla fondatezza delle accuse) e dato indicazione di fare un nuovo processo specifico anche perchè nel frattempo le liste di farmaci consentiti era stata modificata.

    Cosa non fatta perchè erano sopraggiunti i termini della prescrizione (anche perchè ci sarebbero probabilemnte voluti altri 9 anni tra istruttoria e processi).

    Processo sportivo: nell'ottobre 2006 la CAF respinse il ricorso della Procura Antidoping del Coni nell'ambito della vicenda doping che vedeva coinvolto Agricola dal 1998. La giustizia sportiva aveva infatti aperto un'inchiesta interna, per verificare se, da un punto di vista sportivo c'erano gli estremi per punire il medico sociale della squadra bianconera. La Procura Antidoping del Coni aveva presentato ricorso nei confronti di Agricola, per il quale l'accusa aveva chiesto tre anni e due mesi.
    Dagli atti del processo non è risultato, infatti che la società bianconera ha fatto uso di sostanze proibite, nè tantomeno di epo. Ciò che è stato dato in pasto dalla stampa all'opinione pubblica è una realtà distorta, una verità a metà: la Juventus non ha fatto mai uso di eritropoietina, o almeno questo è quanto è emerso dagli atti. I valori del sangue di alcuni giocatori della società torinese, potevano nascondere l'uso di tale sostanza, ma, come ammesso anche dal medico dell'accusa, la certezza non solo non poteva esserci, ma addirittura, altre sostanze, perfettamente lecite avrebbero potuto provocare quei valori diversi dalla media.

    La Juventus è stata assolta sia a livello penale che a livello sportivo da qualsiasi accusa di doping.

    La Cassazione non ha emesso nessuna sentenza di condanna per abuso di farmaci e per frode sportiva. Ha semplicemente ritenuto inammissibili le motivazioni dell'assoluzione delle sentenza di appello, invitando ad effettuare, dall'inizio, un nuovo processo.

    La giustizia sportiva ha assolto Agricola.

    Nessuna sentenza di colpevolezza (se non in primo grado per il solo Agricola con Giraudo e la Juve ritenuti all'oscuro di tutto) è mai stata emessa.

    La Juventus non si è sottratta ad alcun giudizio della giustizia sportiva (l'unica che avrebbe avuto eventualmente titolo per revocare i trofei)avuto eventualmente titolo per revocare i trofei).

    Juventus deserved to get relegated. full stop

    Article 1, Article 6, Article 39: read them.

    Or just never post again.

  • ForzaPadova

    Ive read transcripts where he has offered refs cars, ive read transcripts where he has told ibrahimovic to play poorly while at Ajax so his fee will be cheaper, etc etc... Your the one who looks like a fool. Anybody who thinks Moggi is innocent is a fool.

  • Anton

    This is ridiculous. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. It sounds like you read one news story about the scandals years ago, and have gradually jumbled up names and rumors to come out with your own fairytale version. You must be an inter fan. They are the only ones clinging to the wild stories. They used accusations to defer attention before, and are desperately trying to again now that they have been caught. 

    Everyone has seen exactly what is there but the unfortunate truth is that justice would hurt italian football at a time when it has just recovered from the first scandal. Inter would have to be stripped of their only titles for years, and by implication(though not in practice) an important CL title for italy, and further damages to the uefa ranking coeffs. 
    Truth is, Inter benefited from the original decisions. Which were made unfairly. They should have been equally punished, but to try to compensate for that now would probably have terrible long term implications. For a start, they could forget about regaining the fourth CL spot for a good 5 years. The 2006 title should not have been granted, and inter should have been demoted, and therefore unable to win the 2007 title either or qualify for the champions league. This has so many knock on effects and hypotheticals that it would throw the last 5 years of calcio into question. Players signed, tv rights, winnings, everything.
    Moggi could massacre a small village, but no matter how "bad" you
    paint him it doesnt make inters (proven)cheating "good". Understand that this is probably the largest factor in why inter have not yet been busted. I cant help but feel that the current raising of the bar of the other italian clubs and milans recent scudetto are the nail in the coffin, convincing the FIGC that everything is going to work itself out. They set out to make an example last time around. They did just that. To go back and mess with it would in itself set another example, one they dont want to set. 

    You should really get the facts straight before you speak. you are not privy to any information that the global community is not. if you have read "a report", odds are most of us here have too. Its not like recalling to some mates down the pub who have no idea or interest. 

    In my opinion the fair result if this would see one of two allocations of the last few years titles:

    05 & 06 restored to juventus, 07 unassigned(the year of the point deductions), all other titles to stand. (ie pretend the match fixing and the season heavily titled in Inters favor never happened, and the decisions made had not lasting effects on the clubs after that, and he clubs had returned to status quo by the following season)

    OR

    05 through 09 revoked completely(ie, the whole thing was a shambles, wipe out all results until some sign that the status quo had returned. In this case milan, who were a punished team, winning a title)
    To try to reassign titles now would cause controversy for years.

    There should also be one of two enforcements:

    Inter relegated and deducted points next season, mostly for perverting justice but also for their role in the scandal. Personal fines for those involved(ie, the proper and equal punishment carried out a few years late)

    OR

    Juventus to be paid the amount asked for in lost capital(444m i believe), all fines to be reimbursed and tables to be adjusted so no point deductions were given to any team (ie, complete exoneration for all clubs, and financial recompense)

    However, I do not believe justice is the best result for italian football. If the last 5 years are anything, they are testament to the fact that allowing the biggest club to go down hurts everybody. Serie A became weaker overnight and declined thereafter. Top players went to Spain, the current dominant force in Europe. Top teams were not present on the continental stage, leaving a series of mid teams to battle it out for european tickets they ultimately could not handle.

    Calcio has spent 5 years searching for stability, and it has finally started to come good. Napoli, Udinese and Palermo are now worth mentioning across the border. Lazio and Roma are looking fresher than they have in years. Inter have finally lost their ill gotten monopoly on the league and Juventus are finally starting to look like a championship squad again.

    If inter are given the full treatment Juventus got back in 06 it would mean tearing apart another continental force for italy and probably the loss of a lot of talent to foreign teams. Domestically it would also mean the league losing a club from the top end of the spectrum. With Moggis recent conviction proving Juventus the Club innocent, it would be better to make some sort of gesture to compensate Juventus For unfair treatment and give inter a slap on the wrist.

    In terms of effects. Financial settlements at this stage would only boost Juventus(at a time when they have pretty much recovered from a footballing perspective) or hurt Inter(at a time when they have exhausted all of their ill gotten dominance). Either way it would probably harm the league as a whole.

    Maybe another look at who is awarded what title would heal some of Juventus' wounds and serve as a reminder to inter that the rules apply to them too. Though I do believe they were robbed of some big talent for cut throat prices. Namely Ibrahimovic, but also a few other one sided deals from necessity which was enforced upon them. I believe they should try to go for the innocent clubs/guilty people approach rather than the inter were equally guilty approach when trying to compensate.

    But ye, do not fool yourself that the question is "is there an injustice here?", when it is in fact "how can we possibly amend this injustice?"

  • oceano

    you are certanly a inter fan,
    i like to remind you that inter is the most ridiculous club in the world,using doping in theyr changing  room by admission of theyr own payer( karagounis),forgery of passport (recoba),farsopoli  that fool  all  italy including judges courts and italian giuridical sistem,(not for long)aticle 1- and 6,telecom scandal,provera ,rossi,moratti ,pretty soon we will get the corrupt cheese( auricchio) that is going to explain why inter fucketti  phone calls to refs where hidden, and much more.we of juve are living beautifuls days,while rabbits inter fans like you, are hide behind the ridi"culo"us.
    AGNELLI  HEROIC !!!

  • Tonyret2

    Where are these transcripts Einstein? Your are delusional, a fool and a bitter person thinking that Gigi Buffon and Del Piero and Nedved are cheats who needed the help of refs! I bet you were one of the first one's to celebrate the world cup in 2006 and then label those players who gave us all such pleasure CHEATS!

  • You mean the ones about him talking to Lapo which weren't deemed of much use eventually?

    You mean the phone call between him and Giraudo in which Giraudo is the one to mention he wanted Ibrahimovic to play poorly but Ibrahimovic didn't get the message and went on to score 3 goals in Ajax's 6-2 win? That other one which didn't have any relevance in what Moggi was convicted of in 2006?

    Have you read anything from what Raiola was doing at the time to make Ajax sell Zlatan? Have you read anything from what Zlatan was doing at the time to make Ajax sell him?

    You're the one to equate phosphocreatine with PEDs, champ.
    That's probably the dumbest shit I have read in years.
    You're equating a paintball gun to an M16.

    Anybody who thinks Juventus had any blatant Article 6 violations which required relegation in 2006 is a fool.

    Anybody who believes that Luciano Moggi and Juventus are the sole source of Italian football's problems is a fool.

    Anybody who believes that Luciano Moggi was the only real 'culprit' of Calciopoli is a fool.

    Anybody who believes inter have always been 'a victim of the system' is a fool.

    Anybody who believes Giacinto Facchetti was merely trying to 'defend' himself and his club from 'Moggi's system' is a fool.

    Anybody who believes that Facchetti was an infallible saint is a fool.

    Anybody who doesn't see the massive financial interests that were at play behind Calciopoli is a fool.

    Joke's on you, still.

  • cheech

    The way that you take these guys to school is a thing of beauty

  • La Federazione Italiana Giuoco Corrotto ha vinto ancora!!!

    All in all, solid work, Dylan. Good article.

    Just a heads up though, from now on, you are going to be called a delusional ruBentino by those who believe that his holiness Giacinto "5-4-4" Facchetti was merely trying to defend himself from Satan-in-the-flesh, Luciano Moggi's mafioso antics.

  • The facts are the facts.

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